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Old 01-29-2010, 06:00 PM   #11
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I just had a conversation with the other plumbers today about what we should be installing. The boss had sold a job of replacing 6 toilets and installing Cadet III, ADA at the local American Legion. If you add the other ones I've put in and I could say I've easily installed 12-15 in the last month. What I've noticed is that about 1 in 4 have some kind of problem. Most of the problems are cosmetic, some are function. Had on today that I will be replacing Monday, it has a leak in the trap, tank also had some problems that made me have to replace the fill valve, after I cleaned the burr of porcelain.

1. For me the Toto have the least problems, so are worth the money.
2. I would like to find a second option, because we are probably going to stop installing Am/stan.
3. Kohler is not an option, they are too hard to deal with, and not worth the hassle, maybe we'll look at Gerber
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Old 01-29-2010, 06:10 PM   #12
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Kohler wellworth. Easy to come by and reasonable. My .02
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Gerber Viper is a great WC

For the money, you can't beat Vortens. Thier 17" High Rhodas flushes like a power flush!!

Toto is a little overrated, IMO

Kohler= Junk
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My choice for install would be the Toto Drake II which I get in the mid 300 range...

I'll install Am.Std. only if customer supplied you know the drill on the warranty...
Been burned too many times by them...
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My choice for install would be the Toto Drake II which I get in the mid 300 range...

I'll install Am.Std. only if customer supplied you know the drill on the warranty...
Been burned too many times by them...
With you on that, Redwood. You know your stuff on this forum (many different topics)
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Kohler wellworth. Easy to come by and reasonable. My .02
Most installed in my area, work well, have you tried the Cimmaron with the 3" flush valve? Funky tank bolt system, but seem to be an upgrade to the wellworth.
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TOTO DRAKE
GERBER AVALANCHE ..... if I'm buying and flying.

In the last two months we've installed 35 -40 CAROMA Caravelle 270 ADA two piece elongated. The city of FT. WORTH is giving them away complete with bolts& wax. No problems/ easy install. These are dual flush.
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Viper and Avalanche.

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I just had a conversation with the other plumbers today about what we should be installing. The boss had sold a job of replacing 6 toilets and installing Cadet III, ADA at the local American Legion. If you add the other ones I've put in and I could say I've easily installed 12-15 in the last month. What I've noticed is that about 1 in 4 have some kind of problem. Most of the problems are cosmetic, some are function. Had on today that I will be replacing Monday, it has a leak in the trap, tank also had some problems that made me have to replace the fill valve, after I cleaned the burr of porcelain.

1. For me the Toto have the least problems, so are worth the money.
2. I would like to find a second option, because we are probably going to stop installing Am/stan.
3. Kohler is not an option, they are too hard to deal with, and not worth the hassle, maybe we'll look at Gerber
I've yet to have a problem with function, but I agree the porcelain quality is inconsistent.

I have yet to try a Gerber avalanche but have heard good things about them. I've put in a couple vipers and wasn't that impressed with the flush, but a decent toilet for the $. For some reason my plumbing supply stocks the vipers and not the avalanche.
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I've yet to have a problem with function, but I agree the porcelain quality is inconsistent.

I have yet to try a Gerber avalanche but have heard good things about them. I've put in a couple vipers and wasn't that impressed with the flush, but a decent toilet for the $. For some reason my plumbing supply stocks the vipers and not the avalanche.
Really ??? The Viper has a great flush !! Wonder what is up with that ? If you get a chance ,,,, please try the Avalanche !! GREAT TOILET !
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