Damn Mason - Plumbing Zone

Tankless · 12-05-2008, 08:42 PM

So I finished up one job that I had been working on for about two weeks and go to start the next one. This is that outdoor Firepit I was asking about last week. Anyhow, I spoke to HO a few days ago (when I was actually scheduled to start) to let them know I would be delayed a few days. She asks me when can the mason start. I tell her after Monday. I get there around noonish and there he is doing the footings for everything. He is in the middle of pouring. I walk up and see what he is doing and it just sorta slipped out, "what the f*cu are you doing"?

He turns around and looks at me and says what. What are you doing here, I haven't done any of the gas lines, why are you doing footers? Get this...this tit had the balls to tell me this "I didn't have anything to do today".

So now I gotta trench under his sh*t which is going to set me back atleast half a day.
I haven't spoken to the HO yet but it screwed me up because I had materials for that portion of the job. Back to the shop to pick up other mats. By the time I started working, I had maybe 3 hrs in it today before the sun went down. I'm too tired and sore to give a sh*t right now, but tomorrow I'll be cursing.

**Ron** · 12-05-2008, 08:59 PM

I hate when that happens.

muck · 12-05-2008, 09:32 PM

ya i hate that too

para1 · 12-05-2008, 10:47 PM

change order!

Hyper Piper · 12-06-2008, 09:13 AM

Is the HO the GC.

WestCoastPlumber · 12-06-2008, 11:39 AM

Plumbing goes first, everything else follows! Sounds like a little extra $$$ is due, I think it all depends on the conversation you had witht eh owner before starting the job.

Were they aware you needed to get you pipe in before the Mason went in ?? If they knew the order of the trades, and then screwed up by letting the mason in, then they need to pay for the extra work.

I just did a fire pit and outdoor sink this summer, the owner was very aware that all my stuff went in first, the gas, the drain, the water, everyone worked around me, it worked great, I was back at the house the other day, the stone and everything turned out very nice.

Marlin · 12-06-2008, 03:34 PM

I agree, someone owes you the money for your extra work. If the mason decided to go ahead and do his work ahead of schedule without letting anyone know then it's him. If the homeowner/GC gave him permission then he/she owes you. You shouldn't have to eat the extra work because the mason decided to change the schedule.

Tankless · 12-06-2008, 09:58 PM

The Mason did it on his own. He was told he could start after Monday. No one let him in, it's the back yard and he let himself in as no one is home during the day.

I got alot done today and I'm tired as all hell. I was informed I will be getting a Christmas tree tomorrow, as well as putting up the lights. My family didn't seem to care too much that Sunday is healing day. Maybe next week I can relax a little.

Hay Robert. the OD fireplace you did, did you just do a normal log lighter or something else. I still haven't figured out a way to make the fire pit the way the client wants it. Need some ideas on that. Has anyone ever made a custom log lighter of sorts?

Killertoiletspider · 12-06-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankless

Has anyone ever made a custom log lighter of sorts?

We used to make flame sticks out of type L copper tubing on residential new construction jobs all the time, we would hook them up to the gas line and light them for a place to get warm in the wintertime.

WestCoastPlumber · 12-06-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankless

The Mason did it on his own. He was told he could start after Monday. No one let him in, it's the back yard and he let himself in as no one is home during the day.

I got alot done today and I'm tired as all hell. I was informed I will be getting a Christmas tree tomorrow, as well as putting up the lights. My family didn't seem to care too much that Sunday is healing day. Maybe next week I can relax a little.

Hay Robert. the OD fireplace you did, did you just do a normal log lighter or something else. I still haven't figured out a way to make the fire pit the way the client wants it. Need some ideas on that. Has anyone ever made a custom log lighter of sorts?

I didn't want any part of that, I just stubbed up 3/4" and the customer is going to have a BBQ / Fireplace company come out and do a professional install. We have a local company that does that sort of thing. I stubbed the 3/4 up about 2" above the finished rock work, so if they have to reduce to 1/2", it wouldn't be an issue. everything worked out great.

12-05-2008, 08:42 PM	#1
Tankless Always Something Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Santa Barbara / Ventura Posts: 1,296 My Photos	Damn Mason So I finished up one job that I had been working on for about two weeks and go to start the next one. This is that outdoor Firepit I was asking about last week. Anyhow, I spoke to HO a few days ago (when I was actually scheduled to start) to let them know I would be delayed a few days. She asks me when can the mason start. I tell her after Monday. I get there around noonish and there he is doing the footings for everything. He is in the middle of pouring. I walk up and see what he is doing and it just sorta slipped out, "what the fcu are you doing"? He turns around and looks at me and says what. What are you doing here, I haven't done any of the gas lines, why are you doing footers? Get this...this tit had the balls to tell me this "I didn't have anything to do today". So now I gotta trench under his sht which is going to set me back atleast half a day. I haven't spoken to the HO yet but it screwed me up because I had materials for that portion of the job. Back to the shop to pick up other mats. By the time I started working, I had maybe 3 hrs in it today before the sun went down. I'm too tired and sore to give a sh*t right now, but tomorrow I'll be cursing.

12-05-2008, 08:59 PM	#2
Ron Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In Cyber Space Posts: 7,754 My Photos	I hate when that happens. __________________ I'm Sorry. My Fault. I Forgot You Were An Idiot

12-05-2008, 10:47 PM	#4
para1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: D/FW, TEXAS Posts: 1,342 My Photos	change order! __________________ www.paradiseplumbinganddrains.com

12-06-2008, 11:39 AM	#6
WestCoastPlumber Plumber Manhattan Beach Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los Angeles (South Bay) Posts: 822 My Photos	Plumbing goes first, everything else follows! Sounds like a little extra $$$ is due, I think it all depends on the conversation you had witht eh owner before starting the job. Were they aware you needed to get you pipe in before the Mason went in ?? If they knew the order of the trades, and then screwed up by letting the mason in, then they need to pay for the extra work. I just did a fire pit and outdoor sink this summer, the owner was very aware that all my stuff went in first, the gas, the drain, the water, everyone worked around me, it worked great, I was back at the house the other day, the stone and everything turned out very nice. __________________ Robert Plumber Culver City, Plumber Los Angeles, Plumber Manhattan Beach, Plumber Hermosa Beach,Plumber Marina Del Rey, Plumber Redondo Beach, Tankless water heaters Los Angeles Tankless repair Los Angeles Last edited by WestCoastPlumber; 12-06-2008 at 11:42 AM.. Reason: 3rd grade spelling level

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12-05-2008, 09:32 PM	#3
muck Muck me? Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Worcester, Massachusetts Posts: 654 My Photos	ya i hate that too

12-06-2008, 09:13 AM	#5
Hyper Piper Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central Wisconsin USA Posts: 160 My Photos	Is the HO the GC.

12-06-2008, 03:34 PM	#7
Marlin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 468 My Photos	I agree, someone owes you the money for your extra work. If the mason decided to go ahead and do his work ahead of schedule without letting anyone know then it's him. If the homeowner/GC gave him permission then he/she owes you. You shouldn't have to eat the extra work because the mason decided to change the schedule.

12-06-2008, 09:58 PM	#8
Tankless Always Something Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Santa Barbara / Ventura Posts: 1,296 My Photos	The Mason did it on his own. He was told he could start after Monday. No one let him in, it's the back yard and he let himself in as no one is home during the day. I got alot done today and I'm tired as all hell. I was informed I will be getting a Christmas tree tomorrow, as well as putting up the lights. My family didn't seem to care too much that Sunday is healing day. Maybe next week I can relax a little. Hay Robert. the OD fireplace you did, did you just do a normal log lighter or something else. I still haven't figured out a way to make the fire pit the way the client wants it. Need some ideas on that. Has anyone ever made a custom log lighter of sorts?