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Protech · 11-18-2009, 01:09 AM

I was taught that it helps to seal in flue gases. I don't know if that's true or not but it's a habit now. Yes, I'm sure it's double walled.

TheMaster · 11-18-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Protech

I was taught that it helps to seal in flue gases. I don't know if that's true or not but it's a habit now. Yes, I'm sure it's double walled.

If the vent is working proper it should draw and therfore not leak...plus its double wall. I might could understand you wraping it to make it stronger,those have came apart on me before.

DUNBAR PLUMBING · 11-18-2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMaster

The dryer doesn't turn on by itself and they do not have a standing pilot anymore.

On that statement about the standing pilot:

There are tons of those dryers in circulation, but that's not what I'm referencing, I'm referencing hot surface ignitors that are at the bottom of a gas dryer that light up inside. Dryers should be 18" off the ground as a rule, but I never see that happening.

I got some great pictures of everything discussed on this thread but I'm too tired to put them up tonight. I have to crop some of them to get a better view as well.

TheMaster · 11-18-2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DUNBAR PLUMBING

On that statement about the standing pilot:

There are tons of those dryers in circulation, but that's not what I'm referencing, I'm referencing hot surface ignitors that are at the bottom of a gas dryer that light up inside. Dryers should be 18" off the ground as a rule, but I never see that happening.

I got some great pictures of everything discussed on this thread but I'm too tired to put them up tonight. I have to crop some of them to get a better view as well.

I understand perfectly and I agree to a degree. Most tank type water heaters have a standing pilot than run 24/7. Most dryers do not have a standing pilot and do not automatically turn themselves on. Any spark or high heat source can ignite flammable vapors...it doesn't hafta be a dryer or a water heater.

Redwood · 11-18-2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Protech

I don't know about you but most of my gas heaters sit in a pan that is pretty flat. I've not had any problems with the screens on the American heaters I'm putting in. I've been installing that brand for a little over 2 years now and haven't had any callbacks on them (I have warranties on them and my magnet is stuck in a conspicuous location on the heater)

Here are some pics of an install I did today with one

I can see the homeowner reaching down into the space between the pan and the water heater to remove and clean that air filter...

http://www.americanwaterheater.com/s.../FG-Filter.pdf

They typically go a year or two before the nightmares start...

I'd say you have problems on the horizon...

TheMaster · 11-18-2009, 02:35 AM

Those filters are removable but I doubt most people will clean them. Dont those have a reset if they overheat so they can be reset? if so you could clean the filter and hit the reset button and fire her back up.....Now that would be sweet. Plenty of easy service calls in the future.

Protech · 11-18-2009, 09:53 AM

Yes, they have a reset. If the HO doesn't clean the filter then they get no hot water. It's going to be like the filter on the AC or changing the oil in your car. Do it, or pay big bucks.

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Originally Posted by TheMaster

Those filters are removable but I doubt most people will clean them. Dont those have a reset if they overheat so they can be reset? if so you could clean the filter and hit the reset button and fire her back up.....Now that would be sweet. Plenty of easy service calls in the future.

Protech · 11-18-2009, 09:56 AM

The filter snaps out of there in like 2 seconds and if washable. If the HO doesn't do it the first time they will learn the hard way (cold shower, and a service call to clean the filter and hit the reset).

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Originally Posted by Redwood

I can see the homeowner reaching down into the space between the pan and the water heater to remove and clean that air filter...

http://www.americanwaterheater.com/s.../FG-Filter.pdf

They typically go a year or two before the nightmares start...

I'd say you have problems on the horizon...

Protech · 11-18-2009, 09:59 AM

One other thing I feel I should note. There is no dryer in that garage, but there are open gas can sitting 5 feet away from that heater. I think the flame arrestor is warranted in that situation.

Mike073175 · 11-18-2009, 10:17 AM

American heater are nothing but a public nuisance, get rid of this garbage.
http://www.crockettplumbing.com

11-18-2009, 01:09 AM	#31
Protech ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Polk County, Florida Posts: 7,167 My Photos	I was taught that it helps to seal in flue gases. I don't know if that's true or not but it's a habit now. Yes, I'm sure it's double walled. __________________ Plumber, Repiping, Replumbing, Leak Detection, Solar Water Heater, Drain Cleaner, Pipe Leak, Polk County Plumber, Lakeland Plumber, Winter Haven Plumber, Haines City Plumber, Bartow Plumber

11-18-2009, 09:59 AM	#39
Protech ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Polk County, Florida Posts: 7,167 My Photos	One other thing I feel I should note. There is no dryer in that garage, but there are open gas can sitting 5 feet away from that heater. I think the flame arrestor is warranted in that situation. __________________ Plumber, Repiping, Replumbing, Leak Detection, Solar Water Heater, Drain Cleaner, Pipe Leak, Polk County Plumber, Lakeland Plumber, Winter Haven Plumber, Haines City Plumber, Bartow Plumber

11-18-2009, 10:17 AM	#40
Mike073175 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3 My Photos	american heaters American heater are nothing but a public nuisance, get rid of this garbage. http://www.crockettplumbing.com

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11-18-2009, 02:35 AM	#36
TheMaster Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,437 My Photos	Those filters are removable but I doubt most people will clean them. Dont those have a reset if they overheat so they can be reset? if so you could clean the filter and hit the reset button and fire her back up.....Now that would be sweet. Plenty of easy service calls in the future.