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Old 08-26-2009, 10:15 PM   #1
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Talked to our regional Rep for Delta at our supply house today .

Me " What the F**K did yous guys do with the good old stuff ?!!"

Rep " Sir , put the torch down and let explain "

It seems that I don't know much .. Maryland , Calif , etc ,etc have passed some new laws pertaining to lead content leaching from brass faucets seeing as lead is used to make the bending of brass much easier . ( Law #1953 believe he quoted ) .

Anyway , Delta realizes that this will soon be nation wide and have moved ahead of the wave with the new Diamond Seal Tech and the Pex supplies

0% LEAD ,,,, thats 0% . Asked me to attempt to pull the pex lines out of the faucet . My best bench press is 375 lbs ,,,, I pulled ,I tugged , Ikicked and screamed and tried to get all MACHO on this thing ,,,,That thing KICKED MY A**.
Can't break 'em .

I'm not too fond of these changes ,, but i will admit that if this is the way things are going to go ,,, Delta has made a good case to me today to go with them .

I know Dunbar had posted a good video about this particular faucet . Again ,, I'n NOT TOO excited about these changes ,,, but at least now , I'm willing to give it another look .

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I recently put in a new Delta and was disapointed at the changes. Hopefully my disapointment is short lived and I like 'em.
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I was talkig with a Chicago Faucet rep. and he said the requirement that will take effect in 2010 is that no faucet shall have more than one quarter of one percent total lead content by weight adverage. and they are setup for that with brass faucets ( I lifted one nice and solid and heavy) He said they just need to use less lead in the brass alloy which makes the brass harder which will mean they will go through dies faster but you can still do brass no need to go to those cheap plastic faucets.


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I hear ya Jim . We'll see how this whole thing plays out . Like to see some more brass in these particular faucets .

Does Chicago have a NICE line of Residential kitchen / bath faucets ?? Thought they were more commercial ??
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heres a link to their ecast faucets. they don't look very nice though.

http://www.chicagofaucet.com/pdf/CF1049.pdf
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I was talkig with a Chicago Faucet rep. and he said the requirement that will take effect in 2010 is that no faucet shall have more than one quarter of one percent total lead content by weight adverage. and they are setup for that with brass faucets ( I lifted one nice and solid and heavy) He said they just need to use less lead in the brass alloy which makes the brass harder which will mean they will go through dies faster but you can still do brass no need to go to those cheap plastic faucets.


Yup you're right, there is no need to sell and install a pos faucet that weighs less than the box it comes in! Other manufactures are making faucets within the guidelines and they are still brass. Delta screwed the pooch big time, I dropped them like a hot potato! Won't sell or install the garbage.
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The supplies I can live with. The rest of the faucet.... NO. Not durable.
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ive installed a few of them, very dissipointed in delta! ihave installed delta for over 30 yrs. but with the new ones im afraid our relationship is coming to an end!
deltas got me singin the blues!
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Never liked plastic, it just feels cheap.

Can"t go wrong with Chicago, like their motto says, last as long as the building. Also their guts are easy to replace!
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ive installed a few of them, very dissipointed in delta! ihave installed delta for over 30 yrs. but with the new ones im afraid our relationship is coming to an end!
deltas got me singin the blues!

I've been collecting these types of links...going to give them to my delta rep...


I started this attitude last year on ridgid.com and everyone is spot on with the disappointment I had.


That's why I titled that thread, "Another disappointment in Product Reliability" which had me contacted by Delta in 3 days of posting it.

I installed one of these last week and I didn't want to cut the factory end off the line, given that experience I heard of the lines pulling out of the connection.

I put it in a 360 loop that I feel was tight, tight.

That line in the future will split at the top, or in the bend. PEX risers do that.
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