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Old 07-28-2010, 08:06 PM   #11
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Yep dropping flux and solder down in the self igniting torch stops them dead.

I had an apprentice bugging me hard to let him sweat a joint...
Against my better judgement I allowed him to do one...
1st joint he does I'm cleaning the torch out...

I kicked him off my truck within a couple of weeks after that...
I just got tired of him wanting to do stuff that he had no idea how to do...
Come to think of it...
There wasn't much he could do...

I think he might have gone to work for Bill with the reversing sawzall trick...
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:37 PM   #12
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Don't you remember when you didn't know anything? When I first was in this trade and new to soldering copper, I was trying to sweat a hose spigot on to a 1/2" copper stub out. I was using way too much heat and had the copper so hot all the flux melted away. I wasn't able to understand why the solder wouldn't flow into the joint. My boss said maybe I better think about a career change. LOL. ALL of us were green at one time, ALL of us.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:45 PM   #13
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Don't you remember when you didn't know anything? When I first was in this trade and new to soldering copper, I was trying to sweat a hose spigot on to a 1/2" copper stub out. I was using way too much heat and had the copper so hot all the flux melted away. I wasn't able to understand why the solder wouldn't flow into the joint. My boss said maybe I better think about a career change. LOL. ALL of us were green at one time, ALL of us.
There is a big difference between not knowing anything and knowing you don't...

Vs.

Not knowing anything and thinking you know everything...

The first I can accept and have no problems with...
The second might be unteachable...

I was 8 years old when I sweated my first joint and even then I listened and did it right...
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There is a big difference between not knowing anything and knowing you don't...

Vs.

Not knowing anything and thinking you know everything...

The first I can accept and have no problems with...
The second might be unteachable...

I was 8 years old when I sweated my first joint and even then I listened and did it right...


Yes very true. If a guy (or gal) wants to learn I'm only to happy to teach, open a code book, show with diagrams, etc. But when someone acts like they know it all.... well then that's a different story especially when that person doesn't know it all.
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I've got self igniting air-acetylene tips that are 15 years old and still lighting. I'm soldering while you are dicking around with your striker....
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for small stuff and trims i use one of these.......



for big stuff and if i have to solder a bunch of stuff i use my turbo torch
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Do you need a torch anymore for plumbing?????
j/k
Turbo torch...if you run it across your hand you can feel the breeze before the pain.......
Sorry, I need to get to work
sadly around here we use way too much CPVC now days, i do like when we get jobs that have copper, and i like to hear the n00bs ***** and complain about using copper, OMG it is so much work LOL
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sometimes i cant find my striker and use my cigarette lighter
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for small stuff and trims i use one of these.......



for big stuff and if i have to solder a bunch of stuff i use my turbo torch
I have a similar rig by Lenox I run Mapp gas on. Seeing as I do service the handheld torch see's a very large percentage of my work. I have the Lenox Turbo Mapp hose rig pictured above but seldom use it.

The acetylene rig is in my garage where it's been gathering dust for years after I pulled it off my truck...

If I ever need it I'll take the chance on having to go get it.
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for big stuff and if i have to solder a bunch of stuff i use my turbo torch




i like the torches that you can throttle down...
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